No Humans Are Animals Survives After Death. Both Goes To One Place

No Humans Are Animals Survives After Death. Both Goes To One Place

Surely the fate of human beings is like that of the animals; the same fate awaits them both: As one dies, so dies the other. All have the same breath; humans have no advantage over animals. Everything is meaningless. Ecclesiastes: 3:19.    Animals and human both have spirits and souls but none survives after death. At death humans are no better than animals both are uncouncious. When one die so do the other. Hell is simply mankind grave. It not a place where the wicked goes and are tormented forever.

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  1. stevehayes13

    Human beings are animals. Ecclesiastes sounds almost modern. One might almost think it was written by Albert Camus.

    November 21, 2016
    1. jaageet

      To state that humans are animals is to recite a proposition of science. It is similar to saying “Mary has a little lamb”.

      November 25, 2016
      1. stevehayes13

        I find this confusing. Are you trying to imply that human beings are not animals?

        November 25, 2016
        1. jaageet

          No. I see what you see: humans are animals. This is our reality as informed by science.

          November 26, 2016
  2. magnocrat

    It depends what you choose to believe and today you have a huge variety of choices. That particular book is a tough one but you could turn to the new testament for lighter reading. The vast majority of mankind in the modern world find it very difficult to take life with out a body very seriously , but some cannot bear the thought of seperation and death so they cling to the unprovable.
    We must not allow the thought of extinction sap all the glorious joy of living.

    November 23, 2016
    1. jaageet

      Why would the thought of extinction sap joy of living?

      November 25, 2016
  3. magnocrat

    I see no reason unless you fear death or feel you have not had enough of life.People are complex beings and the mind can run along many channels, but the wise old saying ’make the most of what you have ’ makes perfect sense.
    Naturally if survival has little comfort and life is unbearable then death may well be a welcome escape.

    November 25, 2016
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    2. jaageet

      Escape from an unbearable life is a rational impulse. Willful ending of life itself is something else. Even if it is as painless as falling asleep, it seems as daunting to bring it about as sticking a gun in my mouth and pulling the trigger. But that’s me. What about you?

      November 26, 2016
  4. magnocrat

    Good reasoning, but the problem is what is unreasonable to one is quite reasonable to another. In my opinion grinding hopeless poverty which is suffered by many is a good reason.Constant anguish and pain would also be a good reason to escape.
    To my mind many have trivial reasons such as life not being what they expect or the break up of a relationship.

    November 26, 2016
    1. jaageet

      I agree with what you said. But what about checking out (of this existence) in a timely fashion even if one is living life successfully: no health issues, financially sound, happy with one’s relationships with no conflicts inwardly or socially with other people, and no more dreams to chase? Don’t you think it is great to terminate one’s life at, say, 75 while still on top of the game? Airplanes don’t fly till they break apart and fall out of the sky. They get decommissioned when they are too old to fly. If we do this for ourselves, mankind would avoid the miseries of old age. Is this a good reason to escape?

      November 26, 2016
  5. magnocrat

    Strange you should pick 75 it is my age and I’m on the decline without doubt but I’m far from ready to sign off. However I am a believer in euthanasia but most people who have a purpose for living will cling to life.
    A classic example is professor Steven Hawking who can barely move or speak but is full of activity.
    As for dreams we all chase them age makes little difference, except to the type of dream.The complete satisfaction you neatly describe is a sort of Buddhist dream to live is to aspire after something, even if that elusive thing is satisfaction itself.

    November 26, 2016
    1. jaageet

      I pick 75 because it is the age when the probability of progressive physical deterioration begins to rise, statistically speaking. Sure, there are folks still skydiving at 90 but what’s the point to that? Unreadiness to sign off is an excuse for not jumping off the cliff with both hands free. I don’t mean to be facetious. I too am “far from ready to sign off”. In my case, it is not on account of unfinished business. I would be afraid to pull the plug. It’s would be like an execution by lethal injection and watching myself in the execution room. This is a depressing conversation; and yet, not to address one’s irrational fears is to perpetuate ignorance. Sun Tzu said: “Every battle is won before it is ever fought.” I am intent on winning the battle not with death but the fear of it so that I can die at a time of my choosing.

      November 26, 2016
  6. magnocrat

    Fears are fears irrational or not, you will find there is not much you can choose in life because circumstances intrude. Also often duty intrudes and your own will is cancelled for the better course of action.
    Hamlet was spot on when he said ‘readyness is all’.
    When we die , the place , the age , the circumstances , none of these matter in the slightest. It is often our own conciet of our importance that leads us to think the world needs us.

    November 27, 2016
    1. jaageet

      That’s exactly the point: the world doesn’t need us. I don’t even need me; but unfortunately, for me, the body does need me the way Stephen Hawking needs someone to feed him and wipe his ass. So, I am the servant of a body that does not even care if it lives or dies. What’s the point to a funeral for this body as far as I am concerned? I am enslaved by the body to cater to its needs because I am afraid to kill it. Slaves run away from their masters. The only way out then is this: I need to die before the body does; and especially, before it becomes like that of Hawking’s. I reflect on this all the time the way Andy figured out his escape in Shawshank Redemption.

      November 28, 2016
    2. jaageet

      Steve believes humans are animals. Have you come across any animal that thinks like me?

      November 28, 2016
  7. magnocrat

    While it is true in the large scheme of things we are not needed those close to us and involved in our daily lives do rely on us. That is where our human duty lies to make the few lives, both animal and human , that we contact sweeter.
    You are not the servant of your body , rather the occupant while it lasts.
    You are looking for reasons to exist and at the same time concluding there are none.
    No one but us can make something meaningful of our lives.

    November 28, 2016
    1. jaageet

      So, we are indeed needed (by those who rely on us) and not our own conceit of our importance? How did this relationship of reliance and support come about? Why did the man in the above picture get a dog, the life of which he now has a duty to make sweeter? He then gets a wife who gives him children and thus his duty grows. And last but not least he runs for President of the United States. Thus, he is needed even in the large scheme of things, like the Pope. It all begins with the occupant, of the body, who has a need to be needed and refuses to be a lowly servant.

      November 28, 2016
  8. magnocrat

    I expect you have heard the saying no one is irreplaceable , well it applies in this case. When one Pope goes another takes his place ect ect.
    So it is a balance just like most things in life. Nothing is in stark black and white , or cut and dried.Life has to be lived as it proceeds and circumstances have to be faced come what may .
    Relax you cannot control your life completely don’t carry unnecessary burdens.

    November 28, 2016
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